UCDP #77 – AI in Dealerships & EV Retail Innovation w/ Ross Tinkham & Alex Lawrence

Summary

Recorded just after NIADA, where AI was the talk of the conference, this episode of the Used Car Dealer Podcast digs into what AI actually looks like inside an independent dealership today. Host Zach Klempf talks with Ross Tinkham, go-to-market leader at Podium, and Alex Lawrence, CEO of EV Auto, a used-EV-only dealership group and longtime Podium customer. Alex walks through how EV Auto leans on Podium's AI agent, nicknamed Amy, for inbound lead handling around the clock, alongside Podium's phone system, payments, Google reviews, and after-hours texting, while a human teammate and salespeople cover the rest.

Ross explains how Podium's AI BDC pushes leads in and writes data back out to a dealer's CRM, why the out-of-the-box agent is a solid "B" that needs real tuning to become an "A," and how Podium engineers emotional intelligence into the agent so it reads for intent rather than just syntax. The conversation also covers why Alex refuses to run digital retailing tools because most EV buyers are first-timers with lots of questions, what's different about servicing EVs, and Ross's preview of Podium's upcoming voice-AI service-scheduling offering, which was in beta with EV Auto at the time of recording.

Key takeaways

  • Podium's AI arrives out of the box at a "B or B-plus," and Ross says it typically takes dealers 60 to 90 days of tuning conversations to get it to an "A."

  • At EV Auto, 80 to 90 percent of customers have never bought an EV before, which is why Alex skips digital retailing entirely in favor of a zero-pressure, in-person buying experience that can take as little as 20 minutes.

  • At a recent NIADA session, only about a third of dealers in the room said they had used or tried an AI solution, underscoring how early adoption still is across the industry.

Timestamped Chapter Markers

  • 00:00 – Intro: AI buzz after NIADA & guest intros

  • 00:58 – Ross, what's your journey into auto tech, and what's your role at Podium?

  • 01:45 – Alex, what inspired your journey from academia to founding a used EV dealership?

  • 03:26 – How did EV Auto and Podium start working together?

  • 05:06 – Alex, what are the main ways Podium supports your dealership's sales and ops?

  • 06:59 – Ross, how does Podium's AI BDC integrate with a dealer's CRM and comms stack?

  • 08:46 – Alex, what workflow changes did you make when implementing AI at EV Auto?

  • 12:48 – Ross, how does Podium's AI keep communication human and personalized?

  • 14:10 – What consumer expectations has AI helped dealerships meet in the digital retail era?

  • 15:42 – Alex, why don't you use DR tools, and how do EV buyers differ?

  • 18:08 – Biggest challenges launching a used EV-only dealership?

  • 20:47 – Ross, what new Podium innovations are coming?

  • 22:55 – Alex, what's next for EV Auto in 2025?

  • 24:20 – What's different about servicing EVs?

  • 26:48 – How will AI transform auto retail in the next few years?

  • 31:39 – Rapid fire: favorite EV model

  • 33:02 – One word to describe the future of automotive retail

  • 34:03 – Most exciting tech trend